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People should only be charged with crimes they actually commit.



agreed and she committed attempted murder!


I have a sneaky suspicion that if this were a man who arranged to meet up with his girlfriend, so he could murder her but his girlfriend didnt show up we wouldnt be having this conversation!

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She got 5 yrs. because of her age. I would love Philer on my jury if I whacked a man!
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INTENT is all that is required, and she intended to commit murder.
For that, she should be prosecuted.

Suppose someone was to threaten to kill Trump.
Would that person just be ignored until they actually did it?

For every school or public shooting that we hear about, we also hear about people who were arrested for planning such attacks, but never pulled them off. Should all of those people be ignored until they actually kill people?

How about a person who tries to rob a bank, but is not able to get anything? Should they just be let go because they didn't get any money?

That's why we have laws to protect us from crimes such as ATTEMPTED robbery and ATTEMPTED murder.

Let's just say that I come up to you and put a gun to your face and pulled the trigger, but the gun jams and doesn't fire. Naturally you'd let me off scot free since you were not hurt, right?
This is no different than the scenario you laid out.



It's different because in that scenario an actual attempt would have been made to shoot someone. The girl in this case didn't try to stab anyone. And we don't even know that she would have done so if she had found people in the church. She could have changed her mind. Anyone who fires a gun at someone or attempts to do so has run out of time to change their mind. They've definitely committed themselves.

BTW, a person who threatened the president would not be charged with an attempt to commit murder but rather threatening the president, the crime that they would be guilty of committing.
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agreed and she committed attempted murder!


I have a sneaky suspicion that if this were a man who arranged to meet up with his girlfriend, so he could murder her but his girlfriend didnt show up we wouldnt be having this conversation!



We wouldn't be having this conversation because he wouldn't have been charged with attempted murder.
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She got 5 yrs. because of her age. I would love Philer on my jury if I whacked a man!



Unless you did it in self-defense you'd be out of luck. I wouldn't cut a woman a break if she was a Prima Donna who did it because she was upset the guy was walking out on her or any other reason that amounted to no more than her having her feathers ruffled.

I just want women to be subject to the same treatment under the law that white men receive.
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I have never once seen you post about a woman "prima donna," "ruffled feathers" and white men," I don't know how anyone could take that statement seriously. If you are a feminist and want to stand for women, seriously change your MO, it is awful beyond awful!
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I have never once seen you post about a woman "prima donna," "ruffled feathers" and white men," I don't know how anyone could take that statement seriously. If you are a feminist and want to stand for women, seriously change your MO, it is awful beyond awful!



In the case of male Prima Donnas, the main category of violent criminal, a lot of their crimes boil down to just having their feathers ruffled. I may not have described it that way but it's still accurate.

Something has happened which bothers them or interferes with them getting what they want but it's nothing along the lines of a serious threat to them. For example, in the case of teenage Prima Donnas it might have been something as minor as not getting to drive the family car which has led him to shoot one of his parents.

Female Prima Donnas are the same sort of animal. They don't get their way and they greatly resent it when that happens. Some of them have also done things like shoot boyfriends who wanted to break up with them.

Of course they are in the minority and their behaviour isn't tolerated to the extent that the behaviour of male Prima Donnas is tolerated and "excused."
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some recent entrants for the class of "female prima donnas"


Victim who nearly lost eye in vicious glass attack claims attacker spared jail ‘because she’s a woman’

Ronnie Lee, 24, was on a night out in Bournemouth when 21-year-old Yasmin Thomas, who has 17 previous convictions for assault, carried out her unprovoked and vicious attack.




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Mum who strangled her two sons was ‘evil from birth’ says her brother


Martyn Barrass says his sister Sarah and accomplice Brandon Machin have been ‘evil since birth’ and worried about what they were capable of for years. They both had a fixation on all things gruesome, killing pet mice for fun before eventually moving on to Tristan, 13, and Blake, 14. The boys were throttled to death in their Sheffield home, just a day after a failed poisoning attempt.




Sisters beat up homeless woman in the street and mocked her disability

Katie and Molly Thomasson, aged 24 and 21, repeatedly punched and kicked Jodie Gillet in the face as she lay on the floor, pleading ‘Leave me alone, please stop’. The attack in Worcester city centre landed the victim in hospital for two days with a broken nose and eye socket.



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Mother-of-three, 25, avoids jail after viciously beating up woman in front of victim's six-year-old daughter



Paige Hoyle, 25, had been drunkenly fighting with her boyfriend and father when she hurled a bottle which smashed near the feet of Victoria Wynn's daughter.
Miss Wynn huddled her sobbing child and asked for them both to be let past - but Hoyle, herself a mother of three, retorted: 'Who the 'f*** are you?' and promptly subjected her to a vicious beating.

Notice please that TWO of these cases the delightful women were not jailed - something to do with courts being biased against women I think

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Victim who nearly lost eye in vicious glass attack claims attacker spared jail ‘because she’s a woman’

Ronnie Lee, 24, was on a night out in Bournemouth when 21-year-old Yasmin Thomas, who has 17 previous convictions for assault, carried out her unprovoked and vicious attack.-mais



I bet she wouldn't have been spared jail time if she'd been a white woman. Liberal judges sometimes are very empathetic to the troubles of black defendants.

But she definitely falls into the female Prima Donna category of violent criminal. We have plenty of them in this country also.

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Paige Hoyle, 25, had been drunkenly fighting with her boyfriend and father when she hurled a bottle which smashed near the feet of Victoria Wynn's daughter.
Miss Wynn huddled her sobbing child and asked for them both to be let past - but Hoyle, herself a mother of three, retorted: 'Who the 'f*** are you?' and promptly subjected her to a vicious beating.

Notice please that TWO of these cases the delightful women were not jailed - something to do with courts being biased against women I think



Men routinely assault people in this country without getting jail time, especially their wives and girlfriends. Of the violent female criminals you mentioned the more seriously violent criminals received some jail time. One of them a 35 year to life sentence.
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Men routinely assault people in this country without getting jail time



and women routinely assault men and dont get jail time - so whats your point?

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