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Founder of veterans group blasts Trump over report he called dead US troops 'losers'


It is NOT POSSIBLE for there to be a bigger piece of walking excrement than is Donald J.Trump.


'This is who he is': Founder of veterans group blasts Trump over report he called dead US troops 'losers'

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'This is who he is': Founder of veterans group blasts Trump over report he called dead US troops 'losers'


▄ Some military veterans reacted harshly to a report in The Atlantic that said President Donald Trump referred to dead US troops as "losers."

▄ "Why should I go to that cemetery?" Trump was said to have told senior staff members, canceling a visit to an American cemetery outside Paris in 2018. Citing multiple sources, The Atlantic said Trump went on to add, "It's filled with losers," and later referred to the dead as "suckers."

▄ "Who is really surprised by this?" tweeted Paul Rieckhoff, a combat veteran who founded Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. "This is who he is."

▄ "This story doesn't just make me angry. It makes me feel sick," tweeted Will Goodwin, a graduate of West Point who now serves as director of government relations at VoteVets.



A report that President Donald Trump said US troops who died in World War I were "losers" has gone over about as well as one might think it would among liberal military veterans.

While veterans groups such as the American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars have thus far stayed out of it, others more openly critical of Trump's leadership have reacted angrily to Thursday's story in The Atlantic, which reported that the US president didn't see a need to honor 1,800 Marines who died fighting in France.

"Why should I go to that cemetery?" Trump was said to have told senior staff, canceling a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery outside Paris in 2018 (the White House at the time blamed the cancellation on weather). "It's filled with losers," he reportedly said, later referring to the dead as "suckers."

The comments, relayed by unnamed sources, are reminiscent of Trump's 2015 mockery of Sen. John McCain. "He's not a war hero," Trump said publicly of McCain, a fighter pilot who was held captive and tortured for over five years in Vietnam after being shot down. "I like people that weren't captured."

Indeed, The Atlantic also reported that Trump referred to McCain in private as a "f---ing loser." He also was said to have called President George H.W. Bush a "loser" for being shot down while serving as a Navy pilot in World War II.

The White House has denied the story. A senior Defense Department official later confirmed it in "its entirety," according to an Associated Press reporter.

"Who is really surprised by this?" tweeted Paul Rieckhoff, a combat veteran who founded Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. "This is who he is," said Rieckhoff, who supports the Democrat Joe Biden's presidential campaign, arguing Trump "has no respect for anyone."

The Atlantic's report also said Trump disrespected the loss of his chief of staff John Kelly, whose son Robert died fighting in Afghanistan.

"I don't get it," Trump reportedly said during a 2017 trip to Arlington National Cemetery. "What was in it for them?

"This story doesn't just make me angry. It makes me feel sick," tweeted Will Goodwin, a graduate of West Point who now serves as director of government relations at VoteVets, a progressive political action committee. "It's disgusting. It's an unthinkable betrayal."

Wall of Vets, a group of veterans that has organized to defend Black Lives Matter protests in Portland, Oregon, posted that "words fail."

"This is the Commander in Chief and this is how he views our fallen brothers and sisters," the group said on Twitter.

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Why is it that not one of the Republican officeholders objecting to Biden's victory have objected to their own wins on the same day on the same ballots using the same election systems??!
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Even Fox News Confirms Trump Called Veterans "Suckers" and "Losers"

But Fox hosts are still calling it a hoax.
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/f ... -fox-hosts
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Trump was only referring to those veterans who volunteered to go to WWI, and he is right.
It was a stupid and wrong war, that the US should never have gone into. Anyone who did volunteer to go to WWI was an idiot and sucker for believing lies.
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???

"The Defense officials also confirmed to The AP reporting in The Atlantic that Trump on Memorial Day 2017 had gone with his chief of staff, John Kelly, to visit the Arlington Cemetery gravesite of Kelly’s son, Robert, who was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan, and said to Kelly: “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/09/03/report-trump-disparaged-us-war-dead-as-losers-suckers/
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???

"The Defense officials also confirmed to The AP reporting in The Atlantic that Trump on Memorial Day 2017 had gone with his chief of staff, John Kelly, to visit the Arlington Cemetery gravesite of Kelly’s son, Robert, who was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan, and said to Kelly: “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/09/03/report-trump-disparaged-us-war-dead-as-losers-suckers/



I don't agree with US troops going into Afghanistan and murdering innocent civilians either.
About the only war that can be remotely justified is WWII, and that is because Japan attacked us first, and Germany declared war on us first.

All the other uses of US troops were illegal and immoral, in my opinion.
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Trump was only referring to those veterans who volunteered to go to WWI, and he is right.
It was a stupid and wrong war, that the US should never have gone into. Anyone who did volunteer to go to WWI was an idiot and sucker for believing lies.



Was he, so McCain was a "loser" then there is Kelly. A person who uses an excuse for bone spurs, condemns others that served? It's chicken !@#$ to say anyone who went to any war for this country is an idiot, especially considering the age this country forces kids to go.
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quote:

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Trump was only referring to those veterans who volunteered to go to WWI, and he is right.
It was a stupid and wrong war, that the US should never have gone into. Anyone who did volunteer to go to WWI was an idiot and sucker for believing lies.



Was he, so McCain was a "loser" then there is Kelly. A person who uses an excuse for bone spurs, condemns others that served? It's chicken !@#$ to say anyone who went to any war for this country is an idiot, especially considering the age this country forces kids to go.



But did anyone go to war FOR this country, or did they do it because they were afraid to do the right thing and resist the illegal war? We could end all illegal wars if only people resisted illegal wars.
I agree it is hard at that age, but even Vietnam should have been pretty obvious. Ho Chi Mihn was a national hero for beating the French.
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quote:

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Trump was only referring to those veterans who volunteered to go to WWI, and he is right.
It was a stupid and wrong war, that the US should never have gone into. Anyone who did volunteer to go to WWI was an idiot and sucker for believing lies.



Was he, so McCain was a "loser" then there is Kelly. A person who uses an excuse for bone spurs, condemns others that served? It's chicken !@#$ to say anyone who went to any war for this country is an idiot, especially considering the age this country forces kids to go.



As most anyone assoc. with Trump, Kelly's reputation's been shot to #ell; I don't care how much people think he's been redeemed by Trump's insult of his dead son! This guy thought himself able to control Trump and keep him from making a fool of himself and the country! He failed miserably as "Chief Of Staff" and only made himself look bad trying to defend the actions of Trump! I can still see him covering for the boss when his Trump insulted a Gold Medal family recipient saying "he knew what he was signing up for!" Then he denies saying it even though on speaker phone with a Congresswoman in the car! Kelly decides to undermine the credibility of the Congresswoman, calling her a "big bag of wind!" It's just unfathomable that a well respected service officer would allow himself to be used like that! It only got worse after that until Kelly was fired/resigned later! emoticon

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quote:

katie5445 wrote:

quote:

Rigby5 wrote:

Trump was only referring to those veterans who volunteered to go to WWI, and he is right.
It was a stupid and wrong war, that the US should never have gone into. Anyone who did volunteer to go to WWI was an idiot and sucker for believing lies.



Was he, so McCain was a "loser" then there is Kelly. A person who uses an excuse for bone spurs, condemns others that served? It's chicken !@#$ to say anyone who went to any war for this country is an idiot, especially considering the age this country forces kids to go.



But did anyone go to war FOR this country, or did they do it because they were afraid to do the right thing and resist the illegal war? We could end all illegal wars if only people resisted illegal wars.
I agree it is hard at that age, but even Vietnam should have been pretty obvious. Ho Chi Mihn was a national hero for beating the French.



Refusing to pay federal income tax and thus not supporting a war is a good way to protest a war like the Vietnam War but talk about taking guts. It took a lot of guts to do that.
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quote:

Rigby5 wrote:

quote:

katie5445 wrote:

quote:

Rigby5 wrote:

Trump was only referring to those veterans who volunteered to go to WWI, and he is right.
It was a stupid and wrong war, that the US should never have gone into. Anyone who did volunteer to go to WWI was an idiot and sucker for believing lies.



Was he, so McCain was a "loser" then there is Kelly. A person who uses an excuse for bone spurs, condemns others that served? It's chicken !@#$ to say anyone who went to any war for this country is an idiot, especially considering the age this country forces kids to go.



But did anyone go to war FOR this country, or did they do it because they were afraid to do the right thing and resist the illegal war? We could end all illegal wars if only people resisted illegal wars.
I agree it is hard at that age, but even Vietnam should have been pretty obvious. Ho Chi Mihn was a national hero for beating the French.



Refusing to pay federal income tax and thus not supporting a war is a good way to protest a war like the Vietnam War but talk about taking guts. It took a lot of guts to do that.




Not paying taxes only allows them to imprison you.
Better is to stay out of prison and demonstrate, protest, etc.
I remember when more than a million people showed up in DC to protest the invasion of Cambodia.
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