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"Laws are only valid when.........." that is called an opinion it is not a fact. Would I have called, heck no it was a cocker, is there possibly a more docile dog? I avoid dogs listed on the danger list. we had an incident in my community with an 11 y.o. from walking a pit bull, which was leashed through here. It knocked over an old lady and tore her up. Like people are supposed to be there is no doggie discrimination, all have to be leashed unless in a leash free park, which also seems to cause havoc between people, their pets and attacks and I watch far to much Judge Judy........I don't mind persons having any dog of their choice but know who your animal is and what they can do, especially when you make the statement, I have it for protection, one does not have a toy poodle for protection, they have a dog that they expect to protect them and attack.
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listen to the man, Philler and Rigby.
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I watched the video. One of the men characterized the incident in Central Park as a woman calling the police on a bird watcher. There was a little more to it than that. If he had not said something to her along the lines of "if you're going to do what you want to do, I'm going to do what I want to do but you're not going to like it" she probably wouldn't have called 911.

What are women supposed to do in this country when they feel threatened or actually face a threat? For a long time they've been discouraged from carrying weapons for self-defense. Now apparently they aren't even supposed to call the police. Maybe they should just go into hiding.

Don't blame women if the police are incompetent and overly aggressive. They are not the ones training the cops.

If the police need fixing fix them but don't expect women not to call them when they perceive they may be in danger. This society has been teaching women to rely on the police for a long time rather than depending on themselves for their own defense.
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"Laws are only valid when.........." that is called an opinion it is not a fact. ...



No it is not just an opinion.
There are 3 main justifications used as the source of legal authority used by government. One is divine right, the second is might makes right, and the third is the inherent rights of individuals. The first 2 are arbitrary, self authorizing, and can make any law or rule they have the power to enforce. But the third is what is the US employs, and can not be arbitrary. Any law or its enforcement restricts the liberties of others, so then is only legal if it is necessary in order to defend rights of others. So one always has to be able to prove the law is necessary and defends the rights of others. Laws that are not necessary in order to defend the rights of others eventually get struck down on appeals, and that is the basis the SCOTUS uses.
This is important not just because it it helps us to remember not to infringe upon the rights of others, but because government always tends toward corruption and has to be actively forced back into its proper legal limits by an active population, constantly vigilant against government encroachment.

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Divine right is a kings right, Trump may think he is but that is soon going to be over. There are times I think you are impinging on my rights does that mean you automatically win?
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Divine right is a kings right, Trump may think he is but that is soon going to be over. There are times I think you are impinging on my rights does that mean you automatically win?



There is a difference in priority between rights and desires.
And of course it is for impartial judges to decide.
But there always has to be a criteria and means by which not only judges, but everyone can tell if something by government is legal or not. Otherwise rebellion could never be legal, and according to Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence, rebellion not only can be legal, but imperative sometimes.
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There is a difference in priority between rights and desires.
And of course it is for impartial judges to decide.-Rigby



Good luck in finding one of them. Judges are like other human beings. They act on the basis of what they want rather than on the basis of what rights people have.

That problem reaches all the way to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court Justices have ruled based on their personal preferences rather than on the basis of what the constitution says or Supreme Court precedent.

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But there always has to be a criteria and means by which not only judges, but everyone can tell if something by government is legal or not. Otherwise rebellion could never be legal, and according to Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence, rebellion not only can be legal, but imperative sometimes.



Under some circumstances it might be but those circumstances didn't exist before our own rebellion against the British. That was a rebellion based on personal preference rather than necessity.
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People don't revolt for "personal preferences" people revolt when they are at their wits end, Russia, France, to Tiananmen Sq. to Chile to Venezuela.
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People don't revolt for "personal preferences" people revolt when they are at their wits end, Russia, France, to Tiananmen Sq. to Chile to Venezuela.



People can arrive at their "wits end" when they haven't actually done so. Remember our discussion of Prima Donnas? They can easily arrive at their "wits end" when in reality nothing much has actually happened to them to make them turn to violence. It's just in their mind that they have been forced to resort to violence.

If Rigby is right and two thirds of the colonists did not want to revolt against the British it doesn't sound like anyone had actually reached their "wits end." Certainly it's a safe bet that the desire to do so was far from unanimous.

The British didn't force the colonists to revolt. Some of them chose to do so and that sounds like it was nothing more than a preference.
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The so called "prima donnas" is nothing to do with revolution and the founding fathers. You are dismissing the founding fathers as some type of mass murderers. 2/3's is not the truth. There were many caught in the "middle" who lived a rural life and weren't that effected, it was different in the urban areas. Those in rural areas had the British come through and pillage to turn around and have the Colonials do they same. You can continue to call it a preference but what I've read in British colonial history, which follows the colonial history of India, Africa, the Caribbean, they were rapists of the country and the people.
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