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Right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while Antifa haven't killed any


Trump frequently accuses the far-left of inciting violence, yet right-wing extremists have killed 329 victims in the last 25 years, while antifa members haven't killed any, according to a new study

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■ New research, based on almost 900 politically-motivated plots and murders in the US since 1994, found only one person's death in the last 25 years was linked to "antifa" or anti-fascists, and the person who died was the attacker.

■ In comparison, over that same period, 329 murders were linked to the far-right.

■ When the label was broadened from anti-fascists to left-wing violence, it found 21 victims had been killed since 2010, compared to 117 in right-wing violence in the same time period.

■ Jihadist groups were responsible for 95 people's deaths since 2010.

■ The database, which was compiled by a thinktank called the Center for Strategic and International Studies, was launched after Trump's administration spent several months stoking the possibility of left-wing violence, especially during the George Floyd protests.

■ Seth Jones, a counter-terrorism expert, who helped create the dataset, told The Guardian: "Left-wing violence has not been a major terrorism threat."

■ He said: "The most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States."



President Donald Trump has accused far-left groups of inciting riots and violence, but in the last 25 years, no murders in the US have been linked to anti-fascists, while 329 murders have been linked to the far-right, according to new research.

Researchers at a think tank called the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) assembled a database of almost 900 politically motivated plots and attacks in the US since 1994, ending in May 2020, which was reviewed by The Guardian.

The review found that only one person's death in that period was linked to "antifa," a leaderless movement dedicated to combatting right-wing and white supremacist groups, and the person who died was the attacker.

When the review widened its category from antifa to "left-wing violence," it found 21 victims had been killed since 2010, compared to 117 people killed in right-wing violence, in the same time period. Jihadist groups were responsible for 95 people's deaths since 2010.

Seth Jones, a counter-terrorism expert, who helped create the dataset, told The Guardian: "Left-wing violence has not been a major terrorism threat."

He said currently: "The most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States."

It wasn't just CSIS either. Researchers at the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, and at the Anti-Defamation League, told The Guardian they did not know of any murders linked to antifa in the US in the last 25 years.

Since the widespread protests began, Trump, senior officials, and Republican lawmakers have attempted to push the theory that antifa has been infiltrating protests to stoke violence. Trump's threatened to designate antifa as a terrorist organization.

The CSIS database was launched as Trump's administration began to repeat Trump's warnings about a possible "left-wing revolution," according to The Guardian.

In a memorandum released by Attorney General William Barr late in June, it states: "We have evidence that anti-government violent extremists — including those who support the 'Boogaloo,' those who self-identify as Antifa, and others— will pose continuing threats of lawlessness."

It goes on to state that the extremists "may be fortified" by foreign powers who wish to "sow chaos and disorder" in the US.

But there was little proof of any coordinated effort, Business Insider reported in late June.

Paul Barrett, the deputy director of the New York University Stern Centre for Business and Human Rights, told Business Insider's Sonam Sheth that the attempt to frame protests as "a violent leftist conspiracy" bore "all the earmarks of current-day disinformation."

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I would put the number of people killed by right wing extremists as being much higher than that, because I think they started all the wars, are responsible for Prohibition, the War on Drugs, and all the evil this this country has done.

That does not mean I do not appreciate some conservatives values, such as no deficit spending, strict interpretation of the constitution, the rule of law, etc.
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That does not mean I do not appreciate some conservatives values, such as no deficit spending, strict interpretation of the constitution, the rule of law, etc.



WHERE are any of those principles displayed or even practiced by the republican party?

Deficit spending? The GOP THRIVES on deficit spending. They always have! WHY do you think otherwise? That's just NOT TRUE!


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And strict interpretation of the Constitution? The GOP habitually IGNORES the Constitution! WHY do you think otherwise?

Trump Just Told Republican Lawmakers to Ignore the Constitution

President Donald Trump is continuing to push his tough stance on illegal immigration and desire to build a wall on the southern border. In a Monday morning tweet, he encouraged Republicans in the U.S. Senate to get on board, without wasting time worrying about how laws are supposed to work in this country.

Yes, the president of the United States–who swore to uphold the Constitution–said that lawmakers should focus on achieving his goals, and not on whether doing so would be legal. “Constitutionality and Precedent” (which would be a hilariously trollish title for Trump’s next book) aren’t important, POTUS said. Of course, those are exactly the things that courts look to when determining whether or not to block legislation.



And "Rule of Law"??? What makes you think that the GOP has any desire to follow "The Rule of Law"? They ignore the rule of Law on a daily basis! WHY do you think that they follow it?

Trump's unbroken pattern of disdain for the rule of law

Since his early days in office, Trump has scorned legal norms and the men and women who carry them out. He publicly mocked federal judges, derided the criminal justice system as a "laughingstock" and used his first presidential pardon on Sheriff Joe Arpaio, convicted of criminal contempt.
Back then, Trump critics speculated that the President's audacious remarks and actions might backfire. Perhaps they would hurt the administration's legal positions in court. Perhaps public opinion would chasten him. Perhaps the dignity of office would change his behavior.
The episodes have only piled up with no obvious cost to Trump. He is in a wholly different category for the modern presidency, disregarding the rule of law and delegitimizing judges and others appointed to safeguard the system.


Anything else you want to try to claim that republicans are "for" that they actually constantly prove to be "against"? I prefer REALITY over myths and lies any day!

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I would agree with Trump about our criminal justice system, at least to some extent. It does leave a lot to be desired but he has benefited from that system that seems to operate on the basis of bias and prejudice as much as it does the law itself.

In reality we have no rule of law. Like all nations it is people who rule, not laws.

And of course the same thing is true about our constitution. It is followed only to the extent that our government decides to do so.
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IDK why we bother trying to point out the faults of Trump? They're too numerous to list! We all know he's "deplorable" and his cult followers actually embrace the moniker after Trump told them to! They like chaos as long as they're adding to the court hoping to one day overturn "Roe v Wade!" It's so sick, but Republicans have been using that carrot to keep these retro-lemmings in line for decades now; like it's ever going to happen! Women will go "alleyway" and "backdoor" clinic before they allow a-hole conservatives to force them to have a child they don't want! Republicans are such fools; they're willing to trash the ideals of the country to overturn one issue! How asinine! emoticon

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I agree that republicans no longer seem to support conservative values.

But democrats no longer support unions or individual rights like liberal should, or be anti-war any more.

Its like both parties gave up on everything except power.
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I agree that republicans no longer seem to support conservative values.

But democrats no longer support unions or individual rights like liberal should, or be anti-war any more.

Its like both parties gave up on everything except power.



I think it's probably always been bad! Pols in the past just hid their disdain better! Republicans years ago abolished the word "compromise!" You can try to blame both parties for stuff if you like, but nothing's been as criminal as Trump's admin. and y'all just laughed it off! As a senior, I don't have to GAF; my life's settled and I'm ok! It's you young fools that will have to overcome how every institution has been undermined and made to seem as unfair and partisan as Trump and conservatives that support him!

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I agree that republicans no longer seem to support conservative values.

But democrats no longer support unions or individual rights like liberal should, or be anti-war any more.

Its like both parties gave up on everything except power.



Of course we are still supportive of unions, check out Biden his personal appearances have been geared towards unions. How long have liberals wanted out of the ME, years. At the end of the day we are not Libertarians either. At least Obama was no LBJ.
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quote:

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I agree that republicans no longer seem to support conservative values.

But democrats no longer support unions or individual rights like liberal should, or be anti-war any more.

Its like both parties gave up on everything except power.



Of course we are still supportive of unions, check out Biden his personal appearances have been geared towards unions. How long have liberals wanted out of the ME, years. At the end of the day we are not Libertarians either. At least Obama was no LBJ.



I don't know anyone except public employees who have unions any more, and public unions are the one group who likely should not have unions, since they can lobby to effect their bosses.

Democrats have never wanted out of the ME. Obama said he did until elected, then he increased our ME presence, More troops, killed Qaddafi, invaded Syria, regime change in Egypt, illegal economic sanctions on Iran, etc.

I also do not like that ACA was mandatory private health insurance.
It forced people to prepay so they had no say in quality or costs.
It is an illegal tax exemption on a benefit for the wealthy.
It does not transfer if you change or lose your job.
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quote:

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I agree that republicans no longer seem to support conservative values.

But democrats no longer support unions or individual rights like liberal should, or be anti-war any more.

Its like both parties gave up on everything except power.



Of course we are still supportive of unions, check out Biden his personal appearances have been geared towards unions. How long have liberals wanted out of the ME, years. At the end of the day we are not Libertarians either. At least Obama was no LBJ.



That's how Republicans win arguments; just keep repeating a lie so often it becomes facts in their heads! These sick fks right now are invoking Hillary's name in contrast to Trump when it comes to the question of a smooth transition of power! They figure what she says matters as much as the sitting president who's saying "there won't be any transition!" He's hinting at a 3rd term! This man is so messed up in the head; his supporters are the only people more out of their minds! How do these people come back from all the LIES? The "party of liars" will have a hard job trying to recover! emoticon

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