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Here is an account of Sweden's attempts at herd immunity.

It hasn't been as effective as people like Rigby would want us to believe.



WRONG!

Sweden NEVER went with herd immunity.
If they had, then they would have deliberately infected the young and healthy. Instead, they cut crowds, closed restaurants, and wore masks. That prevents herd immunity.
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I say you need to make up your mind.
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I say you need to make up your mind.



Wrong.
I never said that Sweden was attempting herd immunity.
They just decided to not mandate that which would ruin the economy. The main difference is they did not close schools.
But that is because children have so much more inherent immunity.
It was not to achieve herd immunity.
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Balony.
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Balony.



Could we have had herd immunity in March with 30 million young volunteers, and less than 50,000 deaths total, and no more deaths at all?
Clearly the answer is yes, just as it has always been with every epidemic there has ever been.

Clearly you have to agree that 50,000 deaths has to be better than the half million that will die waiting before we develop and distribute a vaccine. So there has to be some number you disagree with. So pick one and I will explain my view in more detail.
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Where you going to get 30 million kid volunteers, a rave, the beach playing volley ball? Off their devices? Even then you'd hit way over 50k, to many older persons and older persons haven't signed up for a soylent green ending. The minute I knew there were young going around infecting people purposely, I would flee. "Pick a number" whatever the number is today of people who wouldn't have gotten ill or died by the 3 easy measures, of masking, social distancing and hand washing, is my number.
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Where you going to get 30 million kid volunteers, a rave, the beach playing volley ball? Off their devices? Even then you'd hit way over 50k, to many older persons and older persons haven't signed up for a soylent green ending. The minute I knew there were young going around infecting people purposely, I would flee. "Pick a number" whatever the number is today of people who wouldn't have gotten ill or died by the 3 easy measures, of masking, social distancing and hand washing, is my number.



There would be no problem getting the 30 million or so young volunteers. The police have to arrest them now to force them to wear masks and not congregate in large social gatherings. Just look at Sturgis.

Obviously you would have to keep the infected and the elderly separated for 12 days. But that is not hard. It is trying to protect the elderly for 8 months like we do now, that is hard.

And you seem to have it wrong.
Once you have the volunteers and infect them, then they would have to spend the next 12 days in a camp.
They would not be trying to randomly spread it.
You would only want qualified people to be infected.

And NO, masks, hand washing, and social distancing can NOT all prevent anyone from getting infected. And in fact those 3 procedures ensure that eventually, almost everyone will become infected. When you "flatten the curve", you make it last longer, and that increases the area under the curve, which is the death toll.
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Who are you kidding? You don't know young people at all. Your just making up a scenario that would never happen to fit your personal agenda that make no sense. I'd minds well go watch the Walking Dead...........
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The biker rally at Sturgis in South Dakota managed half a million young people who were not afraid of the virus.
If you told them it would wipe out the virus in less than 6 weeks, and allow all the bars and restaurants to open, almost everyone would volunteer. I would myself.
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"Afraid" is meaningless. What was the count of young people in Sturgis and more to the point, you are volunteering them when you don't know their mindset. Would they have volunteered to infect their parents, grandparents and great grandparents? How about those far younger who have experienced illness or maybe the hospital staff who have also died? OR. has been a tight state, I have been to the mountains, I have been to the coast several times, going again tomorrow. I have eaten out many times, mostly outdoors but not required. I've gotten haircuts and if I was so inclined I'd go to the gym. OR. has 36 counties all but 7 are back to normal, when I go to the coast, I can go to indoor movies. Don't make it rougher than what it is. The persons who have it rough, those who can't go back to work and if the majority played by simple rules, less would have he disease, less would have died an more would be back to work. This wouldn't have gone away in 6wks, that is a ridiculous statement even under what you suggest. You just keep pulling out numbers and time and they make no sense. Even a normal flu and cold season lasts far longer as in months.
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